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Old May 18, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57   #1
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Default Zkey retention rate

Make it have a retention rate that is tied to PvP titles. I can't think of percentage that would be fair, I'm just giving this idea off the top off my head.

Also, before the PvE trolls come, I'd like to point out Zaishen chest was made for PvP people, not for PvE players that buy keys. So talking about unfairness on the retention rate is plain dumb.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08   #2
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PvE TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Oh, sorry.
You don't retain any other key in the game, why this one in particular? Zaishen Lockpick maybe?
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #3
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You don't retain any other key in the game, why this one in particular?
Well, possibly because it's worth 4 times more then lockpick, and it would be nice to get some bonus over the hardcore dupers for buying keys...
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #4
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won't happen, don't want to see it happen either - leave it how it is.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:19 PM // 12:19   #5
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LMAO
you wanna make zkeys even more profitable now?
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21   #6
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The zaishen chest has exclusive rewards that chests with lockpicks don't get. That will explain the price of it to you. That, and the price shot up with the new title.

So no.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41   #7
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Originally Posted by RyXXed
I'd like to point out Zaishen chest was made for PvP people, not for PvE players that buy keys.
Link to official source of false.

Anyways /notsigned. Its just plain dumb. Before the title everyone was just throwing keys around, now we have 10 threads on how to cheapen the title... gg.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43   #8
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LMAO
you wanna make zkeys even more profitable now?
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less profitable. people would need to buy less overall, so demand goes down.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:47 PM // 12:47   #9
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Also make it so it has the chance of giving 1-5 items every time a key is used because these are SPECIAL keys.

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Old May 18, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53   #10
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as it is a terrible idea and gives more money to people who run sway which is too easy
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59   #11
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Prices would go up (Yes they would) And values of stuff dropping would go down even more.
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Old May 18, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #12
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/not signed.

It would simply cause all kinds of heartache among the player base. You'd have to have the retention rate tied into each of the different PvP titles and there would be a difference of opinion about which retention rate is "fair" or "unfair."

Example - people working on Gladiator title may look at the retention rates for the Champion title track and think they're not getting a fair deal. Along comes Mr/Miss "Champion" and what do you know? He/She thinks that the Champs are getting the better deal.

Then, if either saw that retention rates were also tied to the Luxon/Kurzick title (which, if this were implemented it would only be right to do so since ABs do award Balthazar faction) they'd all be up-in-arms because those two titles can be gotten through PvP or PvE! And that just brings up the whole "Are ABs really PvP?" crap.

P.S. I've never heard of anyone complaing about the price of lockpicks being the same for people with high lucky rank and low lucky rank, ever.
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Old May 18, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30   #13
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/not signed

Why in hell?
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Old May 18, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #14
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Keys aren't retained. Lockpicks are
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Old May 18, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42   #15
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Also, before the PvE trolls come, I'd like to point out Zaishen chest was made for PvP people, not for PvE players that buy keys. So talking about unfairness on the retention rate is plain dumb.
Yeah, because a PvP character is going to need elite tomes?

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Old May 18, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50   #16
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This is actually a good idea (so long as the percentage is low, like 5%). It keeps Z-chest and the z-title as a somewhat PvP title/thing to do, giving PvP players a slight edge, but allows PvE players to still get the title if they want it.
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Old May 18, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29   #17
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lol, I kinda saw this coming but I still lol at it. no, no & moar no. Just no, im not bothering to explain
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Old May 18, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #18
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Well GW doesn't have true PvP, but thats another matter

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Old May 18, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41   #19
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just /notsigned

/vote for changing the QQ subject, zkeys threads re boring
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Old May 18, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #20
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Link to official source of false.

Anyways /notsigned. Its just plain dumb. Before the title everyone was just throwing keys around, now we have 10 threads on how to cheapen the title... gg.
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